tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8663726423732760257.post5390954690509428233..comments2023-10-16T05:18:49.911-04:00Comments on Animal Liberation: "compassion begets compassion": The Seal Hunt is Dead! Long Live the SealsDenbeathhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05940056985000080477noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8663726423732760257.post-80995354911530083872009-04-27T16:03:00.000-04:002009-04-27T16:03:00.000-04:00Dear Anon:
Of course 'intent' means nothing to a d...Dear Anon:<br />Of course 'intent' means nothing to a dying seal but 'intent' is relevant in the volume of seal deaths and in the purpose of seal death. You are right, killing IS killing, the end result being the same, dead seals, however there is no comparison in killing for survival verses killing for fashion. Furthermore, I do not 'justify' killing a seal for any reason however I can understand why a man would do so to feed his family. Am I being hypocritical? Possibly. Even so, I make that distinction and will suffer the ridicule for it. <br /><br />Killing for survival, Is it moral? is it ethical? This is an ethical question that I may be ill-equipped educationally and intellectually to answer. Even so, I'll make the argument that we have the knowledge, the resources and the sophistication to feed ourselves without the need for killing animals. The instant we possessed that ability there is no longer an excuse to kill(as if man ever needed an excuse to satisfy his blood-lust). Being a mammal not possessing the same higher cognitive functions demonstrated by other mammals does not mean it's okay to 'harvest' them for fashion. That is my view. Thank you for your comment.Denbeathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05940056985000080477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8663726423732760257.post-54535139054876107572009-04-27T12:08:00.000-04:002009-04-27T12:08:00.000-04:00Patty,
I see your point that there is a differenc...Patty,<br /><br />I see your point that there is a difference in scale between the subsistence hunt and the commercial hunt, however you do not quite answer why a seal dying at the hands of an Inuit is morally permissible when a death at the hands of a seal "hunter" is not? <br /><br />Killing a seal is killing a seal, and as such I do not believe that the act should be judged on intentions. Intentions matter not to the seal that has been killed, and if you are arguing your approach to be that of the seal, not the human, then somehow you have to explain this inconsistency.<br /><br />You might argue that "subsistence" hunting is natural and therefore permissible, but you have to justify this? For what reasons is it more natural? Because the Inuit do not know any better? Because they are culturally undeveloped and do not conform in many ways to the idea that somehow man is superior and removed from base roots in the animal world? Because they are sociopathic when judged using your criteria? I think that this could well be argued arrogant; you are judging these acts within a moral framework which I do not believe to be always applicable. <br /><br />I would like to hear your views on what makes killing a sentient (but obviously not in the human case, these animals display none of the "higher" cognitive functions demonstrated by some mammals) animal wrong? It is simply a fact of nature.<br /><br />I apologise for remaining anonymous, however, I have received personal threats when commenting on animal issues in the blogosphere preivously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8663726423732760257.post-57912558778257811462009-04-27T11:42:00.000-04:002009-04-27T11:42:00.000-04:00VICTORY, VICTORY, VICTORY!! Let the baby killers ...VICTORY, VICTORY, VICTORY!! Let the baby killers cry all they want, the seals have won!! I am so happy for the seals. It's not the seals that reproduce like rats it's the baby killers that produce like rats!! Now, how to stop the reproduction of people like Norwegian.........thats the next big challenge!amberlopezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219717484143279813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8663726423732760257.post-45659724622914406842009-04-27T10:33:00.000-04:002009-04-27T10:33:00.000-04:00Dear Anon,There is no comparison between the Inuit...Dear Anon,There is no comparison between the Inuit traditional, subsistence hunt and The Canadian's Commercial Seal Hunt. The Inuit are not slaughtering over 275,000 baby Harp Seals a year for their fur. It is morally and ethically wrong to exploit sentient beings.Period. The very phrase 'harvesting a renewable resource' in terms of living beings is repugnant. You 'harvest' a crop of wheat... you butcher an animal. Changing the terminology does not change the horror of the act. It is what it is.<br />Yes, seals eat fish, but whales eat seals. If not for the mass hunting of whales there would be less seals. Man alone in his arrogance is responsible for upsetting the balance of nature. I stand by comment. Anyone who can walk up close and personal to an animal and bash it's head in with a spiked club, or worse, skin it while it's alive is: "not evolved mentally, spiritually, emotionally" and that is sociopathic. Killing an animal humanely for food as a matter of survival is not what The Canadian's Commercial Seal Hunt is about. I thank you for your comment and appreciate that you read my blog.Denbeathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05940056985000080477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8663726423732760257.post-26332141352626422682009-04-27T04:25:00.000-04:002009-04-27T04:25:00.000-04:00While I in no way condone the savage killing of an...While I in no way condone the savage killing of animals of any kind, I do believe that people should maintain the right to harvest these animals should they so wish. <br /><br />I do not think that simply dismissing those who oppose a ban as "not evolved mentally, spiritually, emotionally" or "worthless and ignorant" is particularly welcome either, what of the inuit populations of the arctic circle who oppose this ban? Are they too to be tared with this brush?<br /><br />The fact remains that overpopluation of seals can have significant impact on fish stocks in certain areas. For this reason it seems logical to allow a certain amount of humane hunting to take place, provided it is tightly controlled and regulated. In no way should scenes of baby seals being picked to death and skinned alive be tolerated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8663726423732760257.post-1618442094403063982009-04-26T22:20:00.000-04:002009-04-26T22:20:00.000-04:00You're right, he's comment is evidence of his lack...You're right, he's comment is evidence of his lack of intelligence.<br />AND he's also a coward because he hid his identity.Denbeathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05940056985000080477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8663726423732760257.post-28920999432854520632009-04-26T20:11:00.000-04:002009-04-26T20:11:00.000-04:00This loser wrote almost the exact same thing on my...This loser wrote almost the exact same thing on my Facebook group's wall, "Stop the Seal Hunt" http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2259724474. I already made fun of him. My reaction was the same as Ana's. He's worthless and ignorant.amy123https://www.blogger.com/profile/15362683008996408045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8663726423732760257.post-11653090436189116962009-04-26T16:52:00.000-04:002009-04-26T16:52:00.000-04:00Norwegian's response shines the light on who he/sh...Norwegian's response shines the light on who he/she is as a person. It would be a total waste of time and energy responding to his/her comment. There is no reasoning with a person who has not evolved mentally, spiritually, emotionally.Denbeathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05940056985000080477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8663726423732760257.post-45247300176982186282009-04-26T14:12:00.000-04:002009-04-26T14:12:00.000-04:00Oh, I have got to respond to Norwegian.
First of ...Oh, I have got to respond to Norwegian.<br /><br />First of all, signing yourself "Norwegian" clearly shows your bias. Great way to establish credibility.<br /><br />Anyway, what kind of a response is this? They reproduce like rats? Why is harvesting them the right thing to do? Why do we not "get it?" Are you losing money because of this? Is it your job? Obviously, there's some deep personal interest being affected for you to be so angry.<br /><br />Explain yourself with logic instead of just plain nastiness. It's not impressive. I can hurl the insults back just as easily. <br /><br />Do you get that??Anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04409189700970914279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8663726423732760257.post-3287289936910015302009-04-26T13:03:00.000-04:002009-04-26T13:03:00.000-04:00The seals needs no saving. They reproduce like rat...The seals needs no saving. They reproduce like rats. And they eat millions of tons of fish.<br /><br />To harvest them is the right thing to do... <br /><br />Are you five year old kids, crying your eyes out about the cruelty of life? I mean it. To harvest them for the pelt is really a smart thing to do. Why don't you save the rats and mice of your own countries, I am sure the farmers kills millions and millions of cute mice? You don't get it, do you...Norwegiannoreply@blogger.com